avant / garde / under / net / conditions (vormals: perspektive | issue 43 | 2002 )

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> talan memmott - [USA]
> MEZ - [australia]
> netochka nezvanova - [www]
> brian kim stefans - [USA]
> YOUNG-HAE CHANG HEAVY INDUSTRIES - [south korea]
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/->/ net.artistin && code rebellin // constructed her own language "mezangelle" // u.a. zu finden in der mailingliste "_arc.hive_" //


>> "][net][wurk.ing matrix
>> / interview /
[question-1] :v: [question-2] :v: [question-3] :v: [question-4] :v: [question-5] :v: [question-6]


> [question-1//perspektive]
heinrich heine blames 1843 the railway for annihilating space. the promised cybermedium seems so reestablish (virtual) space in a cooperative time schedule. MEZ is operating in a self-de/constructed textual space called "TTT" (textual time travel) which means a way of thinking, producing and manifesting in/to a theory dungeon of what is stated to be the frame of modern consciousness - network, internet, browser crawling. the manifestation area in which the textual space take place is called "Cybagenic Lattrix", a "net.wurked" sphere between latrinous space and matrix scenes. what is this working matrix about? is it a kind of faradayesque cage where avant garde practice has to capture itself to train its techniques and discourse or is it more a so called "teleklause" (billwet) for nintendo specialist and word capturers?

>> [question-1//response]=[MEZ:]

i should b.gin with the proviso that my neologismic term][inologie][s [such as the _Cybagenic Lattrix_ or _Textual Time Travel_] largely x.ist as definition portals; they act 2 compile meaning only in terms of offering a con][ceptual][venient _housing_ structure by which n.tities can x.tract & chain][hyper][link associations via text. i'd much prefer it if ppl can|could possibly construct|imagine terms that are more appropriate in terms of their own formulation|x.periential reality of a net.wurked spac][tim][e.....

...anyway, on2 a more direct answer.....the meaning of a "][net][wurk.ing matrix" can be conceptualized as a tapestry of potentialities, or n.finite permutations of defor][com][m][unic][ation activity. i stretch & delve ][in][ this potentiality in terms of collaborative action|absorption & formation of cod][n][e][t][.wurks. the m][l][at][t][rix m.bodies n.tricate s][ilicon][ymbiotic tendencies which pulse information via n.finite variations & states of data fluxing that shift, mold & d.fine the net.wurk as a cohesive, un.predic][a][t][ed][able n.vironment.

+net.wurk. p][ercept][atterning. is. reticular.+ read:: +perpetual information in flux, via an x.tended & repetitious curve of data-dipping.+

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> [question-2//perspektive]
most of the discourse "shipping" of MEZ in mailing lists is manifestish or manifesto-like. all avant garde rangers used the technique of manifestation to promote their information highway. your operating manual style - a highgrade mixture of theory, e-technical jargon and - junk and poetry memes [oh - i won't forget to mention the brackets :-)]- is a more overwhelming variance of manifestism - a kind of para/beta-manifestism - what to promote is not to sell. what is your connection to manifestism and the manifesto rangers? and is there nowadays a real difference to self/promotion?

>> [question-2//response]=[MEZ]

1stly it's m.portant to acknowledge that i'm always loathe 2 d.fine myself via regular literary|acceptable benchmark][her & him][s [ie manifesto _tagging_] as mezangelle|code.wurking hopefully e.cli][ck][pses definitions in terms of a net.wurk perspective.

......having said this, i do c the similarities evident in my mezangelled texts [ie code.wurks] that offer statements of creative n.tent & formats aligning themselves 2wards a manifesto styling. howeva, this isn't a primary con][scious][cern in terms of information presentation..... i do agree that this type of activity via mailing list|forum performances [ie posting my code.wurks] is a type of ][new][ x.pressive promotion as opposed to advertising|commercial spam/leap-frogging that is seeping thru the net.wurk.

+i. re.route. language. via. net.based. mechanisms. that. allow. 4. n.hanced. lateral. signification. or. as.sim][ple][ilation.+

+i. am. stained. with. repetition.+ [re.peat] ::the chip.mark of the net. ::][kulture][work::abbreviated strokes::sampling::a][scii][graffiti::code langues::bass.house::jung][le][mantras .all .][t][h][r][ive .in .he][a][re.....

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> [question-3//perspektive]
recently MEZ states the positioning problems in the net.art field as bourdieu summarizes the field process in every art/avant garde field: first there is the movement and a lot of "new" and subversive discourse, second the resistance against the canon crumbles and the crawling into "pref-fabricated authorical comfortzones" (MEZ) begins and the movement looses the connection to itself and the subversive discourse: maybe to transfer your own words - from E-Motes to E-fashion. you are - so to say - famous in net.art field, get awards and make a lot of this representation stuff. what is your protection to get/be into the net.art canon and to keep your textual space alive?

>> [question-3//response]=[MEZ]

...my ][.][ini][file][al n.tention|function in this net.wurked sphere is 2 make sure i don't bl][ind][andly n.ternalize the strictures of a dominant discourse & b so swamped by it that nuthin else ][is capable of][ shin][ing][es.........

....my f.forts 2 keep the _textual space_ alive forms from the need 2 actualise x.pr][n][e][t][ssion with hybrid conceptual|theory bases that actually reflect the dynamics of the medium itself..... avenues|portals such as mailing list forums that allow n.tities 2 dis.play n.herent curiosity, flexibility & a nuanced multilogued style that allows contributors 2 n.teract via various communication modes that n.courages absorption & viable learning templates, & has contributors that want 2 question & absorb n.formation rather than make assumptions, wallow in gossip, & display reactionary communicative behaviours r all crucial 2 my code.wurk dispersal......

....the assumption that ppl on a mailing list: a) cannot d.cide 4 themselves how to navigate & absorb inform][accumula][tion b) r an amorphous group of regular dialogical d.votees who r present on mailing lists in order 2 b x.posed 2 promotional|descriptive information with no depth perception regarding the info/data politik nor the nuanced actualities that surround the use of such lists/net.works....... b) that individuals have the right 2 _own_ & there4 _maintain_ a space on the net.work [ie in.boxes] that must subjected 2 info that is dis.curs][e][ive in nature & representative of an isolation-data-presentation ...all contributes 2 the idea that the net.wurk can be trapped in2 a definable space, 1 that will gel in2 a canonistically frozen m.ulation area d.void of ability & potentiality.

+ i. rewite. &. reroute. this. monog][l][azed. view. of. the. net.wurk.+ + i. seek. 2. channel.+



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> [question-4//perspektive]
for eric kluitenberg cyberspace is the optimal space for avant garde operation: the task of an avant garde ranger today is to disrupt the hegemonial code and to smash the cute surface of internet promotion, a kind of de/recoding all sort of language junk on the internet. mckenzie wark speaks of "codework" in a similar way about your work: a de/reconstruction of language. you call your work "mezangelle" language, a streaming "he.art.ache" for users exposed to a hard stuff experimental terrain. most of your disrupting techniques are well known in the field of experimental writing. but the new aspect in your work is the "fresh" air of contemporary material and coincidence of "meanings" in and around a word-item. what is your connect to experimental literature? what is the role of the user or code viewer in MEZ' textual space and is there a chance to survive the word crash? :-)

>> [question-4//response]=[MEZ]

i'm not actually keen 2 link or analyse my wurks in terms of an _x.perimental literature_ tag, but can understand that those that do need 2 compartmentalize my wurk in terms of predicated history|precedental evidence..............its n.teresting, this obsession with labels N d.finitions that m.brace our work N our s][h][elfs.....coming from the POV of a nic][lic][he.d "net.artist" i guess i try N span many labels, and have found myself doing so lately in order 2 survive [grants, competitions, etc].........but it is, s.sentially, crap. labels do nothing 2 further x.pressive development, & seem 2 primarily s][w][erve 2 mark artists N wurk along a definitive, prosperity plane.......we b.come objects N objecti.f][r][ied in order to slot in the societal/memetic framework......

the mezangelled l.ements that pp|theorists c as linked 2 an experimental literature perspective r the use of ico][de][nographs, fragments of programming language-shards/operating system echos such as ][knit 1][ Pearl][2][.....tree-structures|wildcard refs|booleanisms|unix shell commands|warped html conventions|javascript code re.workings|ascii][esque][ etc etc....the repeated allusions 2 hyperlinks via bracketing of meanings, alternative shadowings to absorption & understanding....[almost a mimicking of the x.pansion of the potentialities of co.d][iscours][e in an environment x.clusively reliant on it].....

...the _main_ ele.ment][al][s that keeps mezangelled creched in the netwurk is information trawling, the draw][l][ of netwurk language & symbol con][inter][ventions & the collaboratory n.tent........i always write & send via email listings, MOO environs etc in the hope that the wurk will spiral out in2 a collaborative e.vent....even if the scissored textings don't e.voke a direct response from code viewers, the fact that the method, formulation & *.exe.][elo][cution r geared 2wards it means mezangelle could not x.ist without the netwurk as a sub][im][mergence arena....

i try ][mammothlishly][ hard 2 make sure that the poetic/sensual nature of my net.wurks balance & offer some sense loadings|purr.spectiff 2 those not neccessarily in the netwurked|code loop, though i do tend 2 heavily load the code.wurks with a structure that mimics a code|net.worked reality...... +. this. is. how. users. survive. the. wur][co][d][ed][ crash.+



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> [question-5//perspektive]
in billwet space exists a dandy called "datadandy" - a postmodern form of walter benjamins passage dandy - a modern eye monster so to say. :-) the datadandy uses information and cyberspace the same way as the historical one not to transmit the gathered information: just to pose with it in the public. in MEZ' textual space lives a new form of dandy which is called "dataderwish" or "E-mote". as his/her historical model s/he gatheres information and promotes it but his/her main purpose is to communicate not to boast. sometimes the dataderwish is called a spammer in analogy to the datadandy which jams the bandwith along the data boulevards. is the dataderwish the ascetic brother of the datadandy? where is MEZ' data boulevard and why is spam so lost?

>> [question-5//response]=[MEZ]

the mez-data-avenue is the antithesis of the monogaze][r][.

the mez-data-boulevard does not adhere 2 a perceptual slant that hi-lites the net.wurk only as a series of interconnected set of difference-loadings, of x.clusive infopackets that can][should][not be transferred nor cross-posted in order that multiple x.posure 2 information|data will not occur 4 various individual enities that n.habit various sets....rather than n.corporating a more holistic viewpoint of the netwurk & acting along an n.clusion axis......

....i c this monogaze as n.dicative of an ego-driven [by ego i mean self-cogitating, not ego as in inflated] awareness that perceives the break-points of an netsystem via individual opinions based on an awareness that may not be replicated via the community population. i also view it as perpetuating a theory structure that relies on a linear interpretation of information, 1 that cuts of any repetitive nuancing in order that data is presented in accordance with a determinist POV.

+. i][nstead][.c.that.we.should.revel.in.net.wurking. cross-pollination.activity+



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> [question-6//perspektive]
the dataderwish is only a capsule for many alias: ][terr.or.vision][ or ][c.o.!.a.x.(ing)][ are variable names for her/him in your textual space. the author is only a mediator, a processor across the apparatus or a subjective parser as Talan Memmott states. for gene youngblood is avant garde today a merging of metadesigner and renaissance amateur. MEZ generates is own networking, is engineer and amateur in one. which role plays the metadesign in your working and is cultural programming an alias for future jamming? :-)

>> [question-6//response]=[MEZ]

+. my. ][l(ectronic)atent][. consciousness. is. operational. in. terms. of. a. net.wurked arena.+
+. 1. that. values. information. in. terms. of. a. context. in. which. elements. r. replicated. &. sequenced. in. burgeoning. waves.+ +. a. weave. &. flow. of. accented. [code language|emulation]. patches. that. r. lapping. @|thru-o][p][ut. m.mersed. personas.+



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